• Urban Wallasch
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Opened 2016-05-31T12:49Z by E. Ninger @emninger

artworks

To do correct artworks in line with Devuan we would need something like a guideline or at least an instruction regarding

       @  use of fonts (which ones for sans, serif and monospace?)

       @  icon sets (and style)

       @  themes (dark ones/clear ones? which?)

As far as i can see, the logo related work is done. Also the backgrounds/wallpapers etc. But for the rest ... (?) Or, may be, i miss something.

Urban, you know the Devuan folks and may be you can find out to whom i should ask ... (?)

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  • Urban Wallasch
    Urban Wallasch @Irrwahn · 2016-05-31T09:10Z

    Did you have a look at https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/desktop-base already?

  • E. Ninger
    E. Ninger @emninger · 2016-05-31T09:14Z

    From an esthetical point of view, i think a flat icon theme would adapt best to jwm driven windows. That's why, in some environments jwm has a problem with rounded corners (so, i for one, would avoid that option, and use a flat layout).

    But, sadly, there is not even one (!!!) flat icon set in the debian repositories! So, can i make somewhere a request to pull into the repositories some flat icon sets (e.g. in gnome-look.org, there are several nice ones)?

  • Urban Wallasch
    Urban Wallasch @Irrwahn · 2016-05-31T09:23Z

    You have to find a person willing to create a corresponding package and maintain it. Or become yourself that person. ;-)

    You could of course open an issue on https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project . But I don't think there are enough resources (read: people) available ATM to mess with icon sets right now.

  • E. Ninger
    E. Ninger @emninger · 2016-05-31T09:45Z

    I see the problem; and i understand pretty well. Just desktop is a minority re the main targets of Devuan, and the jwm, a minority within a minority ;) I don't think i would be able to be the maintainer of something, just computer knowledgewise ... Unfortunately :-(

    I sent a mail to Daniel Reurich regarding the artwork question. Will have to wait if and what he answers. And yes i had a look at that. IMHO, it is not sufficient (for us). We badly need a guideline for at least the use of fonts and colours. Just to have something like a, let's say so, "corporate identity" of Devuan

  • E. Ninger
    E. Ninger @emninger · 2016-06-03T19:55Z

    From hellekin and golinux i gathered some basic infos regarding - the not existing - style guidelines:

    The colours are in hex values:

    #7 B7691 (bg) #716C85 (swoosh) #424252 (logo)

    I checked then, for - the closest possible - html/websecure corrispondances and i found:

    #666699 (bg) dito (swoosh) #333366 (logo)

    The fonts are: Open Sans u Source Code Pro

    GTK theme: Clearlook-Phenix

    For the fonts there is a FAT ( ;) ) problem: OpenSans Regular is fat, i.e. large and broad, not tall and slim. I find it is not acceptable as 11pts for the panel and the window decoration, as 10pts it results too small. I tried with light - that would be acceptable from an esthetical point of view but it might be a problem for readability at least when dark on white; white on dark is ok.

    The gtk theme from my point of view is out. It's absolutely not nice. For the moment i'm playing around with Prudence Dark (which unfortunately is gtk2 only).

    Edited by E. Ninger 2016-06-03T20:28Z
  • E. Ninger
    E. Ninger @emninger · 2016-06-23T14:03Z

    The artworks are not that easy: However, i found out a nice and working gtk2 and gtk3 compliant theme: wertex, vertex-dark (which would by my choice) and vertex-light ( https://github.com/horst3180/vertex-theme ). Now, the problem is, how to adapt it to the purpy colour scheme. I never did touch gtk2 or gtk3 settings safe some minor tweaks for fluxbox.

    For the moment, i did nearly all for the jwm menu settings ... There are some questions still but, ok ... ;) May be when i finish that, i make a zip with all needed files, so you can throw it in an see, if you like it.

    lxdm i did not touch anymore, since i crashed on it all my system and had to reinstall all (that was a good reason, to migrate my home schlepptop from manjaro open rc to devuan ascii open rc, which took me a considerable amount of time and a lot of frustration as well for the installation not working never as expected (i really think the actual installer is close to spam, especially when compared to the manjaro installer(s). Or also the installer of siduction.

  • Urban Wallasch
    Urban Wallasch @Irrwahn · 2016-06-23T14:53Z

    Re vertex: I just had a quick look; looks IMHO quite decent on first view. Should be suitable to use as a base.

    Re menu: So you created some integration scripts to use xdgmenumaker to build a menu?

    Re lxdm: Weird. I have it working on my VM without any problems.

  • E. Ninger
    E. Ninger @emninger · 2016-06-23T15:05Z

    For lxdm: It was my fault, not that one of lxdm, i mixed up unproperly settings from manjaro with settings of devuan and all went to hell. Also because at that time i had only qemu (and not virtualbox) which does a bad job for the screen resolution. Virtualbox on the other hand, does it quite fine - although i cannot get a full hd resolution, only up to 1280X977 (??). Anyway ...

    I have lxdm working in bot setups i'm working with and i find it pretty nice (the only thing is, i didn't work with it the last week to tweak it into devuan style).

  • Urban Wallasch
    Urban Wallasch @Irrwahn · 2016-06-23T15:12Z

    Re VirtualBox screen resolution: You need to install the "Guest Additions" in the guest system. They are distributed in the form of a CD image you can mount in the guest and then run the installer script, see: https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#idm1967 . Caveat: Since those need to build a kernel module you need some common build tools (build-essential, gcc, make, ...) installed first!

    Re lxdm: Ack, I misread what you wrote earlier.

  • E. Ninger
    E. Ninger @emninger · 2016-06-23T16:20Z

    Look at this, would that be acceptable, as a starting point ... ? https://talk.devuan.org/t/attempt-to-make-a-jwm-based-desktop-for-devuan/341/11

  • Urban Wallasch
    Urban Wallasch @Irrwahn · 2016-06-23T16:58Z

    Looks okay to me!

    (Personally, I'm not a fan of purpy anyway, as I have problems with the for my eyesight insufficient contrast, and the purplish colors give me the creeps somehow. ;o)

  • E. Ninger
    E. Ninger @emninger · 2016-06-23T17:15Z

    Yep, but i spoke to hellekind and golinux who are in some way the chiefs of devuan artwork: purpy for them is a must. So may it be - for you, as a special request i'd be willed to use other colours and themes. Since that would be an individual case, no problem at all (i'd use the colours from tempura).

  • Urban Wallasch
    Urban Wallasch @Irrwahn · 2016-06-23T17:32Z

    Don't jump through any hoops unnecessarily, no need to provide another color scheme \xe2\x80\x94 for everyday use I'll stick to my well tuned Xfce desktop anyway. It's all about the configuration every user account newly created on the system is presented with if the jwm desktop was set as the default at installation time.

  • E. Ninger
    E. Ninger @emninger · 2016-06-25T17:53Z

    Now,i seem to have it done all; only the login manager has to be done. Is that ok so far: 2016-06-25-194803_1920x1080_scrot May you can have a look at the modified vertex-dark. Where can i send the file for you?

  • E. Ninger
    E. Ninger @emninger · 2016-06-25T18:33Z

    May be i can post it here?

    Vertex-Dark-purpy.tar.gz