replacement graphics needed for desktop-base (#5) · Issues · Devuan editors / devuan-art

Here is a mockup of the dark background as an svg that should work for all desktop resolutions and aspect ratio's.

Here's what I'm going to use for desktop-base for the beta release.

The tag line font is too heavy on my old 20" screen. Don't know if that is an svg resize problem or a change that you made. If it's been bolded try just regular. I also suggest that you move the tag line to align with the left side of the "E" and down a bit - it's a little crammed against Devuan atm. The color will work though . . .

I'm against using a single file for all resolutions. IT JUST DOESN'T WORK . And NO , no blue. We're not Windows, and we already spent days finding the green. Come on, why undo what's been done already?

We haven't much time to do this among other tasks, so the need to round-up for a beta is bigger than having perfection. Said that, it would be great if designers can provide the correct files, as Daniel is simply attending to the packaging process.

If something doesn't works perfectly in Beta it's also fine, we'll note it and change it in the final release.

Please provide solutions or plan them for the stable now, Daniel needs files to fill into the desktop and the grub splash, let not this choice become a major issue now.

@hellekin well you may have spent days "finding" green but it is not for me, and I suspect that 95% of Devuan users would immediately swap out the theme for something less garrish and jarring. That's my opinion, but maybe we should at least test our assumptions with a poll. Blue may well be used for a lot of common desktop themes just simply because it actually is a colour that is easy on the eye and neutral. That said, the proposed background is grey with a very very subtle hint of blue hue - aka less than 5% more blue then red and green on the the rgb scale... most people would call it grey... I like it less then a typical blue background but a lot more then the green - besides it was @golinux that had originally proposed that colour scheme - I just applied it to the SVG.

I don't think that your knee jerk reaction in refusing blue just "because that's what everyone else uses" is a good enough reason to justify giving people a punch in the eye when they first boot Devuan. Whatever we have as the default background and theme has to be neutral enough to not evoke a strong emotional response to it, and the green will produce a strong emotional response and people will judge Devuan by that first few minutes. I don't think Devuan exists to just be different, rather to continue in the spirit of Debian to provide the "Universal Operating System" without the politics that have consumed Debian and resulted in bad decisions like adoption of systemd as the only viable init system.

As far as the SVG is concerned, unless your going to do the work of producing image files covering all aspect ratio's and common resolutions and your prepared to maintain and provide the xml mapping for that, then an SVG is the next best way to provide a nicely scaling solution that will look good across the whole range of aspect ratio's and resolutions. The only issue with using svg is the text font - Fira-sans which isn't packaged for debian, the reason being that there is currently no way to automatically build the font from the original source. (The version you've used was compiled using proprietary tools). See https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=724629

Anyway these are all fixable issues if we work together, but the more pressing thing is the other bits I do need like Devuan icon's again either the whole range of pixmaps or again scalable versions.

just my 2 cents... Daniel.

How about purpy (with the default tag, of course)? Avoids both green and blue:

https://git.devuan.org/uploads/note/attachment/1035/devuan-4-freedoms-purpy-136.jpg

I just want to get the beta out. But am also aware that branding is important and that includes a color palette IMO.

As discussed on irc: I looked at the file 'devuan-jessie-software-freedom-blue.svg' as suggested. It had certain issues, some of which are likely to stem from the finalised logo design itself.

Logo: this ought to be a set of 'pure' filled shapes (ie. no clipping masks, no strokes, no overlaps, just shapes filled with colour). This will go further toward guaranteeing that the logo will scale properly. For example it's risky to rely on clipping paths, or on most of the logo being rendered as strokes -- some other software than inkscape can and will render it differently at various sizes. Therefore I 'flattened' the logo into a group of filled, unstroked outlines that should behave better and need no clipping masks.
The strapline, if left as a text object, depends on Fira Sans being installed in the right weight. I outlined the text which means the shapes will render with or without Fira installed.

I didn't want to overwrite anything in this repo so please look at https://git.devuan.org/garbonzo/graphics-edits

As for the installable Fira fonts, I suggested on IRC to download the latest snapshot of otf or ttf fonts from Mozilla, then package those as some kind of transitional/metapackage (terminology??). The SVG glyphs available from Mozilla are a side-issue -- they are intended for use as webfonts, not as desktop fonts. The TTF/OTF files (OTF better I think due to Unicode support) would make a lovely package by themselves -- they include all the proper attributes such as hinting, kerning pairs, spacing metrics... which SVG glyphs on their own won't include.

Best,

David H/FlibberTGibbet/Garbonzo

here's my latest iteration ... devuan-jessie-software-freedom-blue2.svg

Here's my take on a clean, flattened logo. The slight indentation is still (just) visible where the circle meets the top edge of the 'D' swoosh, but that requires a very small change of shape to remove -- I won't go that far without the original author's approval. However this one doens't rely on clipping masks or strokes of any sort, so should behave itself in the wider world where we don't have control over how it gets rendered.

logo-strapline-only.svg

Best,

David

Here are previews of the 'wide' aspect ratio, again in neutral grey. The "tiny" version is just to demonstrate that the text is still readable at 640W. If this tweak to Hellekin's original layout is OK, then we have both shapes (one for 16:10 and 16:9, the other for 5:4 and 4:3) and I can begin producing colour versions to order!

devuan-jessie-software-freedom-neutral-wide-large

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Thanks, I'll get cracking then!

Me too!

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I think we need this to close devuan-packages/desktop-base#3 .

Please see this issue I just opened:

devuan-packages/desktop-base#14 (closed)

Are we done here?

Added awaiting feedback label

Reassigned to @CenturionDan

Marked the task backgrounds - covering the various sizes, aspect ratio's and themes - in svg format. as completed

Marked the task icons, emblems & pixmaps as completed

Marked the task Icon for Desktop link to Devuan Security Info web page: see https://git.devuan.org/packages-base/desktop-base/blob/master/pixmaps/debian-security.png as completed

Marked the task Icon for Desktop link to Devuan homepage & Documentation/reference: see https://git.devuan.org/packages-base/desktop-base/blob/master/icons/scalable/emblems/emblem-debian.svg (and icons/32x32/emblems etc) as completed

Status changed to closed

Sorry . . . I wrote this hours ago but forgot to post it.

I don't know that the purpy window theme has been integrated into desktop-base. I don't even know if that's where it goes!

@CenturionDan can you PLEASE confirm whether or not the complete Clearlooks-Phenix-purpy theme (including ALL the customizations) has been added to where it needs to go?

I'm gathering from jaromil's emails that it hasn't.

Moving this to a new issue #7 at hellekin's request.

Status changed to reopened

mentioned in issue #7

Status changed to closed